Sacred geography true book of mormon geography lands. True book of mormon geography lands, western new york model. These pages are written by jeff lindsay, a book of mormon aficionado, who takes full responsibility for the statements and opinions offered on this page. Even though hagoths ship was described as being exceedingly large it would in no way compare to anything we might consider a large ship today. The good book says, god created all things spiritually before he created them physically. Hagoth and his company were the progenitors of the polynesian races, and that this migration was the beginning of the polynesian population in the south pacific. This episode helps establish that the scattering of israel was taking place even among the nephites. Ainsworths article, identifying the book of mormons narrow pass. Essays on the book of mormon essays on mormonism series metcalfe, brent, vogel, dan on. Hagoth eventually built even more ships and many people set sail in these vessels toward the land northward. The story of hagoth is recorded in just six verses 49 of alma 63.
Holland said, truly rockribbed faith and uncompromised conviction comes with its most complete power when it engages our head as well as our heart truth borne by the holy spirit comes with, in effect, two manifestations, two witnesses if you will the force of fact as well as the force of feeling. Hagoth builder of ships master seaman by wayne may dvd. Sacred geography not to be confused with sacred geometry is about the field of geography as it pertains to sacred and holy lands. We are now in hawaii and plan to cruise these beautiful islands before returning to the northwest. Even if joseph had somehow obtained a copy of antiquities of mexico, hot off the presses in england early in 1830, it would have already been far too late to work any of the knowledge gleaned into the book of mormon manuscript in time for printing. A fallacy similar to that regarding the mound builders fastened itself upon the ancient cliff dwellers 18 hugh nibley wrote, the mound builders actually resemble the book of mormon people not at all. The notion was revived when james adair, an irish trader who lived among the indians for over 40 years, wrote in. His theory did not gain popularity among the rabbis of his time. The lds church is so eager to locate people who fit the book of mormon narrative that even the mound builders and olmecs have been offered as lamanites, despite the fact that many items of european provenance are found in the mounds, establishing postcolumbian construction. Now up until very recently men of science have said no, the polynesians have come from. This article investigates this subject from several angles. Weve chatted back and forth over the last few months about games and game design, and this ongoing conversation has culminated in mike asking if id consider writing a. Indigenous americans and the book of mormon stanley j. A nephite by the name of hagoth, an exceeding curious man, fitted out a ship and sailed from the isthmus of panama into the pacific and was never heard of again.
Most of you believe that the book of mormon occurred in central america, right. Building the basic wanigan riding in my own private idaho. The author states that the book of mormon does not support the idea that hagoth sailed to the islands of the sea, only that he was a ship builder. The book of hagoth hagoth built ships and departed from the land southward with his family and twelve nephite and twelve ammonite families.
This blog is about a threeyear total refit of oceanus, our 1971 columbia 43, turning this classic bill tripp racer into a comfortable and fast cruising boat. Essays on the book of mormon essays on mormonism series. Our knowledgeable staff looks for the best information for the construction professional, as well as the doityourselfer. Book of mormon evidences, part 2 presents more of the factors that suggest the book of mormon may be an ancient document. Still, the members of my district would go to the college in our area to email or, im not really sure what they were doing. Mike and i know one another because of his game hagoth. Why faithful mormons begin doubting real people respond 19. Book of mormonplagiarism accusations19th century influences. Archaeology and the book of mormonarchive 6 wikipedia.
I was a missionary at a time when the internet was off limits. The one tool that the builders could really have made good use of but probably didnt have with them is a saw. I finally got around to watching the free dvd i got from a small order i made with. A model for the book of mormon in baja author beau. We know in the book of mormon, that they had plenty of trees for wood for building their dwellings. Hagoth and his shipbuilding accomplishments are briefly described in the book of alma in the book of mormon. Choice above all other lands book of mormon covenant lands according to the best sources. A dissertation submitted to the faculty at the university of north carolina at chapel hill in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of doctor of philosophy in the.
Hagoth and the polynesians religious studies center. You will never regret it, unless you cut your fingers off, in which case you will definitely regret it. The book of mormon describes three separate migrations of literate people from the old world to the americas, but it is commonly held that the baja california natives had no concept of reading or writing. For the third year running, the toledo, oregon, wooden boat show hosted a kayak build for its family boatbuilding event. Hagoth did not launch his exceedingly large ship from an isthmus. The book of mormon tells of a people ages removed from the mound builders and very far away. Each player is given two wooden ships, a victory point marker in one of four basic colors and a hand of five cards. Its been over a year since someone posted something on book of mormon geography, so i think its about time. In who shall ascend into the hill of the lord the psalms in israel. It is a continuation of book of mormon evidences, part one.
They traveled north along the pacific coastline to the mouth of the colorado river, up the colorado river to the area now known as four corners where they settled for a time. Their belief is that the original polynesian island people descended from the book of mormon followers of hagoth, descendent of the hebrew lehi and a white nephite ship builder in alma 63. Why faithful mormons begin doubting real people respond. The book of mormon geography book, a promised land, the land of promise, is one of our books at alpha publishing available for purchase at virginia elieson was inspired with this geography, while with her patriarch husband and mission president in. When we put up a fence to keep the cows on our property, we chop off a branch from a tree and stick it in the ground as a fence post, and the fence post then starts growing into a tree. The mentinah archives volume one the nemenhah orem, ut 84058. So im not convinced josephs interpretations are a guide for the meaning of the book of mormon particularly how he interpreted the mound builders that dan vogel brings up. There is often more that meets the eye when we get the book of mormon into its proper geographic historic cultural context to bring evidences to bear for a truer picture. None of the participants had ever built a boat before, though they must have had transferable skills because all of the kayaks turned out very nice. The book of mormon tells of nephi building a ship see 1 nephi 17. And we are absolutely committed to providing courteous and prompt customer service.
Although the narration contains some original ideas and stories they are all off shoots of the book of mormon narrative. Unconventional book of mormon geography theories mormon. There is evidence among the maori and people of eastern polynesia that the sun was deified as tane and that ra, the sun god, was the tutelary god of borabora. It was about 4 years later that the book of hagoth, failed personal revelation. Given the intellectual contortions required to square this model with the book of mormon, it was inevitable that someone like rodney meldrum would come along. This dvd gives george potters support for a peru setting for the book of mormon. Does not require any lds background, so can be played with nonmormons as well. This land was called the land of desolation these words he said as the camp was moving off the mounds as near as i could learn he had told them. After about ten days, it having been suggested that some one had got his book, his wife went utter him. It describes great conferences held among the people of the north and the people of the pacific islands. See more ideas about ohio, the buckeye state and mound builders. In 1991, john sorenson of byu, the dean of book of mormon geography, created a book called the geography of. Indeed as many have noted there are many reasons why the mound builders couldnt be the figures of the book of mormon based upon whats in the text itself.
A nephite ship builder in the book of mormon alma 63. More quotes on book on mormon geography book of mormon. He promises to continue his research in peru next year. This model reduces the lehites to an elite minority who helped kick off the mayan civilization. This book is a large geographic setting like no other book available. There are mainstream archaeologists and historians who place the literary setting for the book of mormon among the mound builders of north. Or, the book of mormon and the claims of the mormons re. A look at phyllis carol olive and her great lakes model part iii. No footnotes, personal notes, or other related content available. The ridiculous hagoth fairy tale alma 63, iirc has hijacked the true and proud. I was there to mentor the builders and what a great group we had. This awardwinning page is a workinprogress by jeff lindsay representing one of the most controversial discoveries ever about the origins of the book of mormon, the finding of overwhelming evidence for plagiarism from walt whitmans leaves of grass. Joseph smith preaches book of mormon to cousin lemuel some further discussion in the following overview, i will go through the book of mormon, and present some theories which link the history provided there, to what i perceive to have been a viking invasion c. Hopewell mound builders of north america book of mormon evidence pt.
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